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- Date: Thu, 18 Feb 93 03:00:39 EST
- From: mcgrew@dropout.rutgers.edu (Charles Mcgrew)
- Message-Id: <9302180800.AA12415@dropout.rutgers.edu>
- Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors
- To: ballms@ctrvx1.vanderbilt.edu
- Cc: mcgrew@dropout.rutgers.edu
- Subject: Re: cooper/aids
- Keywords: cooper/aids
- In-Reply-To: USENET article <15FEB199321095117@ctrvx1.vanderbilt.edu>
-
- ...wanted to ask if anyone heard about his idea that aids
- laced smallpox vaccines were used in Africa,, and aids laced
- hepatitis B vaccines used in the states.. This seems pretty
- ridiculous,
-
- ... well, its not Cooper's idea, but it is one theory. If you can
- find the March 19th, 1992 issue of (of all things) Rolling Stone,
- there is an informative article about the polio/aids theory.
-
- In sum, some of the polio vaccines of the 1950's were grown in
- monkey kidney cells. Some monkey virus' can "jump the gap" between
- monkey and humans (for instance the lethal "Monkey-B" herpes virus,
- which is still occasionally killing people (mostly from monkey bites),
- and "SV40", a known immunity-dampener, found in 1961.) All of the
- widely-used polio vaccines of this era potentially carried monkey
- viruses of one sort or another.
-
- From 1957-1960, the theorized infected polio vaccine was given to
- up to half-a-million people in the Congo. (Since the HIV virus wasn't
- isolated until 1983, it is not surprising that it "got by" in the late
- 1950's.) One of the heaviest occurances of aids is in this area (the
- first known occurance of HIV was from blood drawn in 1959, analyzed in
- 1986 -- from Leopoldville (now Kinshasha, Zaire)). Albert Sabin
- (developer of the "sugar cube" polio vaccine) found a rogue virus he
- never did identify in 1959 in the vaccine use in the Congo (produced
- by Dr. Hilary Koprowski, one of several polio vaccine makers at the
- time).
-
- However, the vaccine was give by oral spray, and most experts
- will swear up, down, and sideways that you can't get HIV by
- swallowing it (on the other hand, if you have a lesion in your
- mouth, or inhale the spray, so that the virus could get directly
- to blood, you might become infected.)
-
- So anyway, its possible.
-
- His argument is population control,,
-
- ... there is positively no evidence for this.
-
- ... from CDC in atlanta.
-
- This would seem to be a retelling of an old disinformation story
- that originated with an East German biochemist, whose story (1983-6)
- was that hiv was a disease that "got away" from a Ft. Detrick,
- Maryland biowar lab. (See Charters and Tugwell's "Deception
- Operations".) As time has gone on, the story has mutated a bit, it
- would seem.
-
- Charles
-